The Mountaineering Council of Scotland

Issue 19 August 2003

OTHER NEWS

Scottish Winter Climbing Performance Seminar Series
Tooled up for winter performance….

Hooking, Psyching and Drinking
on the 24 - 26th October 2003

Glenmore Lodge, Scotland's National Outdoor Centre will once again host the Scottish Winter Climbing Performance Seminars Series. This is the fourth season that Glenmore Lodge has hosted these unique, and extremely popular events. A variety of lectures and practical sessions looking at developing the physical, mental, and technical aspects of winter climbing for all winter climbers - from newcomer to performer.

To give you a flavour for the weekend, some of the sessions being run include Mental Skills for Winter Climbing run by Dr Tony Westbury from Napier University; Physical Training for Winter Climbing with Jas Hepburn; Avalanche Avoidance and Self Rescue by Blyth Wright, SAIS Co-Ordinator; and Performance Mixed Climbing with two 'weel kent' Scottish winter climbers Scott Muir and Dave MacLeod. There are also other sessions run by Glenmore Lodge staff looking at ways to evacuate yourself and an injured partner from a winter climb, plus sessions aimed at those starting out in mixed/ice climbing and looking for some top tips and handy technical hints. On the Saturday evening Dave MacLeod will be describing how he has transferred his high standard rock climbing skills to high standard mixed climbing in a talk titled "Pushing Your Mixed Grade: A Fresh Look At What's Important".

Up to date information about the seminar, including in - depth descriptions of the various sessions etc can be seen at www.glenmorelodge.org.uk/winterseminar.

 

The Chance of a Lifetime:
The Winston Churchill Memorial Trust Travelling Fellowships

Applications are now being sought for applicants for grants from this yearly fellowship. The categories change every year, but for 2004 one of the titles is for "Adventure, Exploration and Leaders of Expeditions". About 100 awards are made annually for British citizens from all walks of life. The deadline for applications is 22nd October 2003. Further details are available from The Winston Churchill Memorial Trust, 15 Queen's Gate Terrace, London SW7 5PR. Tel: 020 7584 9315. Email: office@wcmt.org.uk. Website: www.wcmt.org.uk.

 

BIVI TALK

Your Letters

Star Letter
The winning letter published this month in Bivi Talk to receive a Victorinox “Swiss Champ” Swiss Army Knife (RRP £49.95) is John Eccles.

Difference between Men & Women:

Dear Sir
I am inclined to agree with your contributors Bob Sharp and Nina Saunders that “Men Climb and Women Walk”. However, until the complete figures, broken down into gender, for all the people taking part in climbing and walking are available, this cannot be proved.

It is not sufficient to look at accident statistics. One could just as easily conclude from these, that women are more careful climbers or that men are just more gung-ho! As for magazine cover photographs, these could be interpreted as the individual preference of the editors.

Finally, I certainly hope that the notion that gear manufacturers align their products as suggested is ignored. It is only fairly recently that women climbers have had any choice at all in climbing gear. To go back to the dark ages would be a retrograde step indeed.

Margery Johnston

 

Dear MCofS
Hey, what's this? Women going back to wearing men's gear? Being refused entry to climbing walls while men-only sessions take place? Please! Let statistics stay in the dusty files where they belong if these are the suggestions made as a result of them.

In spite of the conclusions Sharp and Saunders come to, we don't need statistics to know there are more women climbing nowadays. Yet there are still more male climbers than female. More interesting and relevant research would compare the present ratio to those of twenty and fifty years ago. Is the proportion of women increasing and, if so, is it because of their freedom from traditional roles, a recently acquired assertiveness or something else?

To suggest courses are tailored because of the statistics they cite is missing the point - it's tantamount to dressing girls in pink and boys in blue. Surely the opposite should be encouraged - more women-only climbing courses to help them appreciate their own abilities instead of comparing them to men's. It might be that women are put off by the male attitudes they encounter. Too often, women start climbing with their partners, which isn't usually the best idea. I should make it clear that all the men I've climbed with are great. But some of the ones I've had the misfortune to be near on routes stun me with their egoism.

Perhaps women and men are generally born with different skills and abilities. But they can train or be trained in ones they don't have naturally, if the motivation is there. I can only assume that the woman who helped write the article isn't a climber. Anyone who is will know the frustration of having to wear men's gear and having their ways of climbing misunderstood.

Climbing is fun, spiritual and healthy. Who cares if men or women want to on-sight solo E4s. Or climb E10. Or argue about winter conditions. Some do and fair enough, it's necessary for the development of the sport. But the majority don't. We just want to enjoy ourselves. And, let's face it, both genders can learn from each other as well as enjoy each other's company. Let's keep encouraging each other and having fun in the meantime.

Diana Preston

 

Early Attempt at Centurion:

Dear Editor
I was fascinated by the account given by Raymond Simpson of his ascent of centurion. In particular I had a quiet smile at his mischievous remarks about Jimmy Marshall, “loose talk in pubs” and “away teams”. Raymond may be interested to learn of another early effort on this marvellous route.

In July 1956 at the age of 17 while still at school, myself and Lennox Garman from the Lomond Mountaineering Club made an attempt on the line, inspired by an article in the Cambridge University MC journal. We were both competent but had not climbed on the Ben.

We tackled Route II in brilliant sunny weather; but due to faulty route finding we climbed too high on the edge of the buttress, forcing a descent diagonally over the slabs underneath the big overhangs. We could see down into the big diedre of Centurion. It looked very feasible to us.

We returned to the buttress the next morning but in the now drizzly gloom the big corner looked pretty dank and uninviting; nevertheless, we decided to “just have a look”. Pulling up on to the stance at the top of the first pitch, I dislodged the biggest loose flake on Carn Dearg which took me back to the start in about two seconds flat. Fortunately the flake did not land on top of me. Unfortunately I did crack some bones and that was the end of our attempt.

There were no rescue teams and salvation had to come from your own party. Two of the boys rushed down to the CIC to collect the stretcher etc and I well remember the arguments about who was going to administer the morphine while I lay there moaning in agony and shocked disbelief! Luckily for me it turned out that the Creag Dubh were ensconced there on their summer holidays and I can claim the distinction of being carried off the hill by the illustrious Pat Walsh, Mick Noon, “Sunshine” and co.

There might be a fain resonance in your contributors tongue in cheek comment about loose remarks in pubs, however the fact is the route was climbed even before I got out of the hospital at the end of August and the successful team (the away team) probably knew all about the line anyway. Don Whillans must have spotted it the year before when he put up Sassenach with Joe Brown and Bob Downes was a member of that very same Cambridge party whose tales inspired me and my friends to follow so eagerly in their tracks all those years ago.

John Eccles, Ayr

 

Phone Masts You Cannot 'See':

Dear Sir
I find it difficult to believe how worked up some people get about taking mobile phones into the hills. I recently purchased one and I think it is a very god aid to safety on the hills. Many people may think that they are skilled enough that they can manage without one, but at some time we all slip or fall, it is just luck, good or bad which determines how serious a fall can be. A mobile phone could be the difference between at best, a long wait for help and, at worst, life or death. One of the main arguments against mobile phones is the amount of masts which sprig up in the most horrendous places, but recently I saw something which would allow mobile phone masts to be erected in wild places without spoiling the views. It is a mobile phone mast disguised to look like a tree, and from a distance blends in with the surrounding trees so as to be almost invisible. How could anyone argue against masts that cannot be seen? I think they are a great idea and I would love to see existing masts replaced with these 'camouflaged' ones. If only they could do the same with wind farms.

James Cassidy.

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